Planes Over the Palisades in Washington DC
Palisades Community Association efforts to abate intrusive airplane noise
"Illegitimi non carborundum"
"MWAA Reagan National Community Noise Working Group (CWG) www.flyreagan.com/about-airport/aircraft-noise-information/dca-reagan-national-community-working-group was established in October 2015 to engage broad-based community participation to identify practical aircraft noise solutions and recommendations to the FAA". The PCA Aircraft Noise Committee chair represents Ward 3 on the CWG.
For certain: Death - Taxes - Airplane Noise
Updated January 3
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Let's look at 2024 CWG accomplishments
FAA implemented RNAV-GPS to replace LDA-Z
Helped reduce the proposed 28 additional flights per day included in the FAA Reauthorization Bill to 10
Working with MWAA and DC Council to establish a Fly Quiet program at DCA
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01/23/25 MWAA CWG meeting Agenda
10/24/24 MWAA CWG meeting Summary
Several residents have observed arriving planes not adhering to the RNAV-GPS route. It appears that LDA-Z is operational again to haunt us. These flights noisely fly over Palisades residences rather than following the river. See screen shots on Good riddance to LDA-Z page A number of commuter planes contracted by carriers are using it. I received this response from MWAA:
Ken, between Dec. 1 and Dec 18, there were 1844 arrivals to Runway 19. Of this total, 190 (about 10%) appear to have been using the LDA. From my data it looks like the LDA Z came back online during the 1st week of December, but I'm sure Matt [from the FAA] will have a more precise date.
This will be discussed as an agenda item at the January 23 CWG meeting on aircraft noise. Support from residents would be helpful (make our own noise to the FAA). If you can attend, then please contact Mike Jeck in advance for arrangements at michael.jeck@mwaa.com
Talk like an "FAA'er" acyonym list
Alaska Airlines uses AI to optimize flight paths Aerotime
Letters of support from local Virgina, Maryland,and DC Officials for MWAA funding the Fly Quiet Program See Fly quiet program page
Commerce Committee ranking member Sen. Teddy-boy Cruz (R-Texas) and his pals forced 10 more flights in/out of DCA.
1) We tried, but the special interest airlines and Senate allies forced 10 more flights per day into the FAA reauthorization bill. More noise! More Accidents! SAD! Thank you for your interest and support.
2) The US Department of Transportation recently awarded five new beyond-the-perimeter flights at DCA to airlines that applied for them. The airlines and destinations tentatively awarded earlier this month are:
o Alaska Airlines to San Diego,
o Delta Air Lines to Seattle,
o Southwest Airlines to Las Vegas,
o United Airlines to San Francisco, and
o American Airlines to San Antonio, Texas.
3) The 2015 FAA NextGen project created concentrated NOISE SEWERS over the Palisades. The enviornmental danger from noise sewers are comparable to health dangers from water, air, or ground pollution. Catch up on past Issues and background regarding efforts to abate noise pollution.
Thank you Palisades and other D.C. residents who submitted 155 comments last summer to the FAA on its Noise Policy Review
Comment ID Comment Title # Endorsements
FAA-2023-0855-2206 Comment from Aviation-Impacted Communities Alliance (AICA) 643
FAA-2023-0855-2244 Comment from Palisades Community Association Ken Buckley 142
FAA-2023-0855-4097 Comment from Morteza Karimzadeh 56
FAA-2023-0855-4027 Comment from Vashon Island Fair Skies 37
FAA-2023-0855-2558 Comment from DC Metroplex BWI Community Roundtable 8
FAA-2023-0855-3843 Comment from Montgomery County Quiet Skies Coalition 4
FAA-2023-0855-3885 Comment from Quiet Communities, Inc. 4
Federal Register Notice to revise its noise policy. The FAA received 4,800 comments/responses to its survey Read the update FAA policy survey results. The FAA site has useful links and webinars to better understand its procedures and taxonomy.
Don't just cover your ears - fight back! Use Flightrader24 and the NIOSH noise tools to capture offensive aircraft.
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